tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post4891731263526468115..comments2024-03-28T23:20:29.943+07:00Comments on Vietnam Bird News: The Great Turtle surfaced ! 01-01-2011Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post-15376750479033608502022-02-23T19:56:12.479+07:002022-02-23T19:56:12.479+07:00صيانة افران البا في جدة<a href="https://methaly-union.com/%d8%b4%d8%b1%d9%83%d8%a9-%d8%aa%d9%86%d8%b8%d9%8a%d9%81-%d8%a7%d9%81%d8%b1%d8%a7%d9%86-%d8%a8%d8%ac%d8%af%d8%a9/" rel="nofollow">صيانة افران البا في جدة</a><br />خدمات منزليةhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955923028254661147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post-5537313816862687462012-03-06T08:08:44.690+07:002012-03-06T08:08:44.690+07:00The published literature that dismissed leloii as ...The published literature that dismissed leloii as a species did not have DNA research but the Vietnamese scientists who did a study in 2010 claim they did. However, although they concluded the two were not the same species, they failed to give the samples to Genbank.<br /><br />Many of the Vietnamese scientists are likely biased, fueled by anti-Chinese sentiment.<br /><br />The Rafetus turtle in Dong Mo, Vietnam does look different from this one, but that may only be linked to age - that turtle is a young male this one is an old female.<br /><br />Only with unbiased studies can we prove anything.Frankyboy5noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post-58417368227438150312011-01-07T20:29:01.447+07:002011-01-07T20:29:01.447+07:00Unfortunately Sebastien, this theory of a separate...Unfortunately Sebastien, this theory of a separate species has been completely and solidly dismissed in the published literature...JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13672726329597676865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post-41553130254496464882011-01-07T12:57:13.036+07:002011-01-07T12:57:13.036+07:00Hi JP
Maybe I have seen the only known specimen o...Hi JP<br /><br />Maybe I have seen the only known specimen of a new species ! The BIG specialist of the Hoan Kiem's turtle, the Professor Hà Đình Đức (nicknamed "Mister Turtle" here), is convinced of this and gave it the name of Rafetus leloii in reference of the king Lê Lợi of the legend ! <br />The comparaison of the Hoan Kiem's turtle with images (?!) of specimens of Rafetus swinhoei in China shows, according to him, clear differences in coloration and head shape, supporting Professor Đức's thesis that this could be a new species. <br />A strange story where taxonomy and national pride seems very imbricated. But it's just my opinion...<br /><br />SebastienAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6036587466649666303.post-85016580548831234142011-01-04T22:34:00.934+07:002011-01-04T22:34:00.934+07:00Great photos Sebastien! Unfortunately, I think all...Great photos Sebastien! Unfortunately, I think all but two of those Chinese individuals are now dead, so you've seen 25% of the world population of this species...JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13672726329597676865noreply@blogger.com